Hi, So I've just read this post and the ensuing comments and I was wondering if we can just get some clarification? It just seems like the mods are saying they will delete post that don't warn about "ableism" yet ableism has not been clearly defined and understood (at least objectively) by the mods. Its confusing because, as the mod have stated, people don't recognize when their being offensive and simply having someone say its offensive is obviously not enough as this is a kink meme and virtually everything can be offensive. My deal is just that if my fic does not have Charles in a wheelchair I think it can be assumed that its alternate universe or takes place before the Divorce, or at very least my labeling it as AU is a sufficient enough warning. I mean this is kind of like if I as a women were offended by Charles/Erik shippers because he needs to be with Moira or if someone made Angel a white male instead of a black female. I think seeing slash, AU, or male!Angel are sufficient warnings in all cases (even if AU is the only warning I get for male!Angel). While I do understand your point in that ableism is something people should be made aware of, I think a kink meme is not the place because fiction is meant to be controversial and kink fiction even moreso. The word "crippled" is still used by prominent authors today to describe the disabled and seeing as X-men: First Class takes place in 1960s where P.C. wasn't even an idea I would not be surprised to see it used casually in a fic. Of course fics where there is blatant hatred/mistreatment towards a disabled person should have warnings, but if they don't I would simply exit out of them and not read them.
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RE:Mod Post
Date: 2011-06-21 12:11 am (UTC)So I've just read this post and the ensuing comments and I was wondering if we can just get some clarification? It just seems like the mods are saying they will delete post that don't warn about "ableism" yet ableism has not been clearly defined and understood (at least objectively) by the mods. Its confusing because, as the mod have stated, people don't recognize when their being offensive and simply having someone say its offensive is obviously not enough as this is a kink meme and virtually everything can be offensive. My deal is just that if my fic does not have Charles in a wheelchair I think it can be assumed that its alternate universe or takes place before the Divorce, or at very least my labeling it as AU is a sufficient enough warning. I mean this is kind of like if I as a women were offended by Charles/Erik shippers because he needs to be with Moira or if someone made Angel a white male instead of a black female. I think seeing slash, AU, or male!Angel are sufficient warnings in all cases (even if AU is the only warning I get for male!Angel). While I do understand your point in that ableism is something people should be made aware of, I think a kink meme is not the place because fiction is meant to be controversial and kink fiction even moreso. The word "crippled" is still used by prominent authors today to describe the disabled and seeing as X-men: First Class takes place in 1960s where P.C. wasn't even an idea I would not be surprised to see it used casually in a fic. Of course fics where there is blatant hatred/mistreatment towards a disabled person should have warnings, but if they don't I would simply exit out of them and not read them.